Key Takeaways

• Curation in DeFi is crucial for guiding users through the chaotic early crypto markets.
• Risk curators ensure market efficiency by maintaining appropriate lending and borrowing rates.
• Curators are evolving into infrastructure providers, leveraging best-in-class systems.
• Transparency issues in DeFi have led to user distrust.
• Lessons from past DeFi failures will shape future investment products.
• The composability of risk in on-chain markets can lead to significant vulnerabilities.
• Isolating risk in decentralized platforms is essential for user protection and retention.
• Curators in decentralized applications build trust similarly to traditional businesses.
• Ethereum and Solana are expected to remain dominant base layers due to their liquidity.
• Integration of CeFi and DeFi protocols is crucial for future financial products.
• Tokenized investment products will significantly benefit lending markets.
• Accurate NAV tracking is vital for both crypto and traditional financial assets.
• Misreporting of NAV is an issue across all financial industries.
• The transition of traditional funds to publicly listed securities may lead to NAV discrepancies.
• The conversation around on-chain products has shifted from “if” to “when”.

Guest intro

Bhavin Vaid is co-founder of Birch Hill, a firm focused on risk curation for tokenized assets and DeFi markets. Previously, he served as a Principal at 1RoundTable Partners with a focus on the digital asset ecosystem.

The role of curation in DeFi

• Curation in DeFi is essential due to the chaotic nature of early crypto markets

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• Users needed guidance on asset safety, leading to the natural need for curation.
• Risk curators play a crucial role in ensuring market efficiency.

• Risk curators enable proper lending and borrowing rates

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• Curation helps users make informed decisions in a wide array of assets.
• The role of curators is evolving to include infrastructure provision.

• Curators today also cross over into being infrastructure providers

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• The evolution of curators is crucial for understanding the future of DeFi.

Transparency and trust issues in DeFi

• The DeFi market has suffered from a lack of transparency.

• Users felt they didn’t know what they were trading

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• Transparency issues have led to distrust among users.
• Past DeFi failures have highlighted the need for transparency.

• Lessons from past failures will shape future products

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• Understanding past failures is vital for future product development.
• Transparency is essential for market stability and user trust.
• The evolution towards transparency will influence future DeFi strategies.

Composability and risk in on-chain markets

• The composability of risk has led to vulnerabilities in on-chain markets.

• One depegging of an oracle could trigger a cascade liquidation

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• Better risk management strategies are needed to address these vulnerabilities.
• Decentralized platforms must evolve to protect users and ensure retention.

• Platforms must protect users to ensure they remain sticky

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• Isolating risk is a necessary shift in strategy for decentralized platforms.
• User protection is crucial for the long-term success of DeFi platforms.
• Understanding composability is key to managing on-chain risk.

The integration of CeFi and DeFi

• Integration of CeFi and DeFi protocols is essential for future financial products.

• Morpho is an example of blending CeFi and DeFi protocols

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• This integration is crucial for the success of future financial products.
• Ethereum and Solana are expected to dominate as base layers due to liquidity.

• Ethereum and Solana have separated themselves from the pack

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• Liquidity is significant for attracting institutional players to block space.
• The integration of different financial systems is vital for product evolution.
• Understanding the relationship between CeFi and DeFi is crucial for future strategies.

Tokenization and its impact on lending markets

• Tokenized investment products will significantly benefit lending markets.

• Lending markets will benefit from assets coming on-chain

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• Tokenization allows for borrowing against assets for short-term liquidity.
• Protocols may need to choose between being a front end or infrastructure provider.

• Accountability is crucial for displaying markets to end users

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• User trust is essential for the success of protocols in the crypto ecosystem.
• The impact of tokenization on lending markets is a significant trend.
• Understanding tokenization is key to navigating the evolving crypto landscape.

Assessing risk and security in the crypto space

• Assessing counterparty risk involves evaluating operating history and partnerships.

• We assess risk by evaluating operating history and partner stack

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• Many hacks in the crypto space are due to phishing, not smart contract vulnerabilities.

• Phishing is a major cause of hacks, not smart contract vulnerabilities

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• Robust operational security practices are essential to mitigate phishing risks.
• Understanding risk assessment is crucial for partnerships in the crypto space.
• Security threats in crypto require a focus on operational security.
• Differentiating between phishing and smart contract risks is vital for security.

Accurate NAV tracking and financial reporting

• Accurate NAV tracking is crucial for both crypto and traditional financial assets.

• Calculating on-chain NAV is important for asset valuation

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• Misreporting of NAV is a pervasive issue across all financial industries.

• NAV misreporting happens in every financial industry

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• Accurate valuation is essential for investor trust and market stability.
• The transition of traditional funds to publicly listed securities may lead to NAV discrepancies.
• Understanding NAV tracking is crucial for asset management in both sectors.
• Accurate financial reporting is vital for maintaining market integrity.

Revenue models and asset management in DeFi

• There are two primary ways entities in DeFi generate revenue.

• Revenue is generated through consulting and asset management fees

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• Consulting is essential for building relationships with clients in DeFi.

• Consulting develops relationships with clients

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• Traditional asset managers are expected to transition to on-chain operations.

• Asset managers will need help to transition on-chain

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• Understanding revenue models is crucial for financial success in DeFi.
• Asset management strategies are evolving with blockchain integration.

Specialization and demand for real-world assets

• The curator space is expected to evolve towards more specialized entities.

• Specialized curators will become more common

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• The market is starving for high-quality real-world assets to come on-chain.

• There’s a lot of capital chasing few real-world assets

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• Specialization offers both challenges and opportunities for future investments.
• Understanding the demand for real-world assets is crucial for market strategies.
• Specialization in asset management is a trend in the evolving crypto market.
• Real-world assets present significant opportunities for future growth.

The shift towards on-chain solutions

• The conversation around on-chain products has shifted from “if” to “when”.

• It’s no longer ‘if’ but ‘when’ for on-chain products

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• The introduction of morpho v2 will unlock new opportunities in on-chain credit markets.

• Morpho v2 will unlock new types of opportunities

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• On-chain solutions are becoming increasingly accepted in the financial industry.
• Understanding the shift towards on-chain solutions is crucial for future strategies.
• The potential impact of new technology on market dynamics is significant.
• On-chain credit markets are expected to see significant developments.

The role of Bitcoin and fiat currencies in finance

• The ability to borrow against Bitcoin is a powerful financial tool.

• Borrowing against Bitcoin allows for strategic trades

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• There is a missed opportunity in the lack of fiat currencies on-chain at scale.

• More fiat currencies on-chain would allow for better hedging

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• The integration of Bitcoin in mortgage lending is expected to increase.

• Bitcoin is being considered for credit in mortgage lending

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• Understanding the role of Bitcoin and fiat currencies is crucial for financial strategies.
• The integration of crypto in traditional finance is a growing trend.

Asset issuance and efficiency in financial systems

• Asset issuers should focus on efficiency and avoid exploiting retail investors.

• Exploiting retail investors won’t lead to longevity

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• Encoding legal agreements with smart contracts can reduce costs.

• Smart contracts can eliminate costs in asset issuance

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• Tokenized credit-based assets yielding 8-11% are expected to grow significantly.

• Credit-based tokenized assets are poised for growth

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• Understanding asset issuance strategies is crucial for financial sustainability.
• Efficiency and innovation are key to successful asset issuance in crypto.

The competition between banks and private credit firms

• The transition from bank deposits to stablecoins is influenced by competition.

• Banks and private credit firms are competing in the stablecoin space

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• Private credit firms are incentivized to transition to on-chain systems.

• Cost advantages drive private credit firms to adopt blockchain

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• Understanding the competitive landscape is crucial for stablecoin adoption.
• The motivations behind blockchain adoption are driven by economic benefits.
• Innovation and competition are key factors in the adoption of stablecoins.
• The dynamics between traditional and emerging markets influence financial strategies.

Successful integration of on-chain operations

• Successful on-chain operations require careful integration of compliance functions.

• Compliance and third-party services are crucial for on-chain success

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• The emergence of digital brokerage models parallels current disruptions.

• Digital brokerage models disrupted traditional finance

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• Understanding the complexities of on-chain operations is crucial for success.
• Historical shifts in financial services provide insight into current disruptions.
• The integration of compliance and technology is essential for operational success.
• Disruption in traditional finance is influenced by blockchain technology.